Legislature(2001 - 2002)

05/07/2002 09:51 AM Senate FIN

Audio Topic
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
     SENATE BILL NO. 268                                                                                                        
     "An Act  relating to the issuance  of state-guaranteed  revenue                                                            
     bonds  by the  Alaska Housing  Finance Corporation  to  finance                                                            
     mortgages  for  qualifying   veterans;  and  providing  for  an                                                            
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This  was the first  hearing  for this  bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JOHN   BITNEY,   Legislative   Liaison,   Alaska   Housing   Finance                                                            
Corporation  (AHFC), Department of  Revenue, stated that  passage of                                                            
this bill would  authorize an AHFC bond measure to  be placed on the                                                            
next  State general  election ballot  for  a vote of  the people  to                                                            
authorize  $500 million  in  veterans'  mortgage revenue  bonds.  He                                                            
informed  the Committee  that  Alaska is  one of  five states  whose                                                            
veteran loan  programs was granted  a federal tax-exemption  because                                                            
the  program  was established  prior  to  a change  in  federal  law                                                            
disallowing  the  exemption.  He explained  that  the  federal  tax-                                                            
exemption  status "requires  that the bonds  have a State  guarantee                                                            
behind them;"  and furthermore,  Alaska's  Constitution "requires  a                                                            
vote of  the people in order  to have that  State guarantee  on that                                                            
debt."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bitney  assured the Committee  that the bonds are structured  in                                                            
such a manner  "that revenues from the mortgages that  they fund, go                                                            
to pay those bonds."  He stressed that this program  "has never cost                                                            
the State anything  nor is it intended  to;" however, getting  voter                                                            
approval  is "a formality  required under the  tax code to  get that                                                            
tax-exemption on the bond."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bitney  informed the Committee  that voters previously  approved                                                            
AHFC veterans'  bond propositions  in 1982, 1983, 1984 and  1986 and                                                            
that  the program  provides  funds for  low-interest  home loans  to                                                            
qualified  veterans.  He  stated that  the  federal  veterans'  loan                                                            
program defines  qualified veterans  as those "individuals  who must                                                            
have entered  active service prior  to January 1, 1977 and  not have                                                            
been discharged  more than 30 years prior to the date  of their loan                                                            
application,"  He stated that the number of individuals  who qualify                                                            
for the veterans'  loan program is  diminishing as time progresses,                                                             
and that  the program "should  almost be  non-existent" by  the year                                                            
2006 or 2007, therefore,  "this, in essence, would be the last time"                                                            
that  AHFC would  be requesting  this  kind of  bond authorization,                                                             
pending  any  federal  changes  to the  definition  of  a  qualified                                                            
veteran.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SFC 02 # 89, Side B 11:07 AM                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman  asked  for  clarification   that  previous  bond                                                            
packages  amounts exceeded  $2  billion, and  this  bond is  seeking                                                            
authorization for an additional $500 million.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bitney  stated  that is  correct, and  he detailed  the  amounts                                                            
distributed  in the previous  four voter  authorizations. He  stated                                                            
that the  approximately  $47 million  currently  remaining from  the                                                            
1986 authorization  is projected to  be completely allocated  by the                                                            
end of  this year.  He stated  that  the new bonds,  if authorized,                                                             
would be allocated on an "as-needed basis."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman asked  if the  tax-exempt status  of these  bonds                                                            
reduces  AHFC's  bonding  costs, and  he  asked  how the  bonds  are                                                            
repaid.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bitney explained  that  there is  approximately  a one-percent                                                             
difference  in the  taxable and  tax-exempt rate;  and he  explained                                                            
that the rate for the veterans  mortgage program is the same as that                                                            
of the tax-exempt rate  for first-time homebuyer program as both are                                                            
tax-exempt  interest rates. He stated  that "the qualifier"  for the                                                            
veterans  program is  the person's  military  service whereas  other                                                            
tax-exempt  programs  instill   qualifiers  such  things  as  income                                                            
limits.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman asked  if the bonds "are actually paid back by the                                                            
veterans."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bitney  stated that is  correct as the  mortgages funded  by the                                                            
bonds are structured  in a manner where the loans  are repaid to the                                                            
bonds.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman  asked if  these  bonds have  any  effect on  the                                                            
dividend that AHFC pays  the State each year, which then funds other                                                            
State programs.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bitney  responded that this bond  program would not affect  that                                                            
dividend.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman  stated   that  the annual   dividend  the  State                                                            
receives  from AHFC  is the result  of interest  earnings  generated                                                            
from various AHFC  bond packages and loan programs.  He asked if any                                                            
of  the  interest   earned  from   the  veterans  loan  program   is                                                            
contributed to the State.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bitney  stated that  the veterans loan  program enhances  AHFC's                                                            
"bottom line" by offering a program that attracts borrowers.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  asked if the veterans  loan program "is  a break-                                                            
even  program on  the pay-back  of  the bonds"  or  is there  excess                                                            
interest earnings generated  which could be contributed to the State                                                            
in the annual dividend.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bitney  stated that the veterans  loan program is structured  in                                                            
such a manner that the  veterans' mortgages are paid directly to the                                                            
bond fund,  and there  are no "excess  earnings,  as the program  is                                                            
prohibited  from doing that." He stated,  "all cost savings  have to                                                            
be passed through to the borrower."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  asked if the federal government contributes  funding                                                            
assistance toward program administration expenses.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bitney stated that  AHFC does not receive federal administrative                                                            
assistance  and that the  program is administered  along with  other                                                            
AHFC programs "as a benefit to those who have served."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  commented that the State has "floated  $2.2 billion"                                                            
in the past and  is now being asked, "to float another  $500 million                                                            
in what amounts to collateral  against the federal loans." He stated                                                            
that  the State's  involvement  is limited  to providing  "the  full                                                            
faith  and credit  of Alaskans  to back  those bonds"  if  something                                                            
happens at the federal level.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bitney  concurred   with  Senator  Wilken'  remarks;   however,                                                            
clarified  that AHFC makes  the loans  and the  State would  need to                                                            
"back the bonds if AHFC falters."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  voiced concern that  this bond package might  be one                                                            
of several bonding issues  listed on the general election ballot. He                                                            
asked what would occur if this bond-vote were delayed.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bitney responded that  there would be no funds available for the                                                            
veterans' home  loan program and therefore,  the program  would need                                                            
to be suspended.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  asked if the  printing costs  of including this  bond                                                            
measure on the general  election ballot would be absorbed by AHFC or                                                            
whether they  would be an eligible  to be covered as administration                                                             
expenses under federal guidelines.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bitney clarified that  the $22,000 printing expense specified in                                                            
the  Division  of  Elections  fiscal  note  would  be  the  cost  of                                                            
conducting the vote in conjunction with the general election.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Leman stated  that the fiscal  note should  specify  who is                                                            
responsible for the printing costs of the ballot.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bitney clarified that  historically, if the bond measure is part                                                            
of  the general  election  ballot,  the  costs  are assumed  by  the                                                            
Division  of Elections.   He informed  the Committee  that one  bond                                                            
authorization was voted  on in a "stand-alone" special election, and                                                            
that AHFC assisted with the cost of conducting that election.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Amendment  #1:  This  amendment  deletes  "the  first  general"  and                                                            
inserts  "a special election  to be  held on the  date of the  first                                                            
primary" in  Section 4, page 2, on  line 24, and on line  25 of that                                                            
same  section, deletes  "and"  and inserts,  "The  special  election                                                            
shall be held  in substantial compliance  with the election  laws of                                                            
the state, including  absentee voting and preparation,  publication,                                                            
and mailing  of an election  pamphlet under  AS 15.58. The  election                                                            
pamphlet  must comply  with  AS 15.58.020(7).  The  question  placed                                                            
before the qualified  voters of the state at the special  election".                                                            
The ballot language would read as follows.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     BALLOT QUESTION.  The question of the state guarantee  of bonds                                                            
     referred  to in this  Act shall be submitted  to the  qualified                                                            
     voters  of the state  at a special election  to be held  on the                                                            
     date  of the first  primary after  the effective  date of  this                                                            
     Act.  The  special  election   shall  be  held  in substantial                                                             
     compliance  with  the election  laws  of the  state,  including                                                            
     absentee  voting and preparation,  publication, and  mailing of                                                            
     an  election pamphlet  under  AS 15.58.  The election  pamphlet                                                            
     must comply  with AS 15.58.020(7).  The question placed  before                                                            
     the  qualified voters  of the  state at  the special  election"                                                            
     shall read substantially as follows:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman moved for adoption of Amendment #1                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly objected for discussion.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Leman  explained  that  this  amendment  would  remove  the                                                            
veterans  bond authorization  ballot question  from the November  5,                                                            
2002 general  election,  and instead,  have it  correspond with  the                                                            
next primary election.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly  informed  the Committee  that  this  election  date                                                            
change is suggested in  a letter [copy on file] dated May 1, 2002 to                                                            
Dan Fauske, CEO/Executive  Director of AHFC from Wohlforth,  Vassar,                                                            
Johnson & Vrecht, Attorneys at Law.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  stated that  the letter appears  to suggest  that if                                                            
the election date  were changed, "extraordinary precautions"  should                                                            
be taken because  it would affect general voter interest  as opposed                                                            
to the interest generated by a general election.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly stated that  the amendment  would be TABLED  and the                                                            
bill would be HELD in Committee.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
RECESS TO CALL OF CHAIR 11:21 AM / 6:19 PM                                                                                      

Document Name Date/Time Subjects